tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post1239459118952692663..comments2024-03-28T11:31:11.928+00:00Comments on Penny Red: Turn LeftPenny Redhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07677315565893516941noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-56418311634396203872019-06-21T07:41:20.882+01:002019-06-21T07:41:20.882+01:00I don t have the time at the moment to fully read ...I don t have the time at the moment to fully read your site but I have bookmarked it and also add your RSS feeds. I will be back in a day or two. thanks for a great site.<br /><br /><a href="https://healthnewsreporting.com/schemes-and-policies/central-government-health-scheme-cghs-patna-hospitals-list/%22" rel="nofollow">Central Government Health Scheme (CGHS) Patna </a><br />Ujan sharmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567168164008681679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-83702176512103142512019-06-19T11:15:58.719+01:002019-06-19T11:15:58.719+01:00This is also a very good post which I really enjoy...This is also a very good post which I really enjoyed reading. It is not every day that I have the possibility to see something like this..<br /><br /><a href="https://healthnewsreporting.com/schemes-and-policies/central-government-health-scheme-cghs-nagpur-hospital-list/%22" rel="nofollow">Central Government Health Scheme (CGHS) Nagpur </a>Ujan sharmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567168164008681679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-14749482222514263302009-08-06T06:05:52.079+01:002009-08-06T06:05:52.079+01:00hello<a href="www.google.com" rel="nofollow"> hello</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-32150679077639974552009-07-29T18:04:42.594+01:002009-07-29T18:04:42.594+01:00Divine and Vanilla
sitting in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G...Divine and Vanilla<br />sitting in a tree<br />K-I-S-S-I-N-GCupid Arsenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-30814878574289379322009-07-29T15:00:15.975+01:002009-07-29T15:00:15.975+01:00Thanks, anon, I'm sure I'll get the hang o...Thanks, anon, I'm sure I'll get the hang of that.Vanilla Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946634138308342764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-23395472287090412792009-07-28T11:32:41.933+01:002009-07-28T11:32:41.933+01:00I really like you, Penny Red, I really really do e...I really like you, Penny Red, I really really do even though you're a bit of a spark plug and a firecracker. Carry on with your writing career; diplomacy isn't for you. Good for you for standing up for the multitude of helpless and powerless people that have on influence and have no voice that anyone will listen to. <br /><br />Cruddas voted strongly for Purnell's Welfare Reform Bill. He isn't destined to be any kind of saviour of the left in the Labour Party.<br /><br />As for Purnell's naked audacity to try to recast himself as being left of centre!<br /><br />Well, I'm speechless!Luther Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-91025894724269444332009-07-27T23:30:15.137+01:002009-07-27T23:30:15.137+01:00Well, sentences 1, 4 & 5 of paragraph 4 clear...Well, sentences 1, 4 & 5 of paragraph 4 clearly do direct us towards a tedious old auction of authenticity but I reckon sentences 2 and 3 are equally important issues whether they're raised by an unemployed person or the Duchess of York.David Floydhttp://www.chartist.org.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-46078556213637594912009-07-26T22:03:42.623+01:002009-07-26T22:03:42.623+01:00The problem is that you are saying things that are...The problem is that you are saying things that are not true, you are hardly one of the starving unemployed. You can hardly complain about the state of UK political morality when your own is questionable. <br /><br />"What I've got to go on is research, the experience of my friends and family, and people I've met." <br /><br />Its nice that they are not ALL middle class. Authenticity is a huge problem in western societies, its a huge driving need for many many people in the left particularly but also right across the political spectrum, and it is used to justify all kinds of doubtful behaviour (statements that amount to "I was shaking afterwards so it must have been real" seem to shut down critical thought). Whether people get their authenticity from decontextualised and idealised feminist experience, islamist experience or maoist experience doesn't matter very much if the objective is merely the authenticity. The result is still the fetishisation and appropriation of the experience of oppression and a disconnection from the real and messy causes of social problems.<br /><br />When I first found your blog I could see some familiar energy, a familiar desire to change things, and I liked it (you can definitely write well), but after a while I started to notice your tendency to cultural tourism. It isn't necessary to pretend to be someone else unless what you are there for is the congratulations from stupid people afterwards. I suspect that you find that attention addictive. Social being, as they say, determines consciousness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-35212150747340591392009-07-26T02:49:21.238+01:002009-07-26T02:49:21.238+01:00@Vanilla
'And there are plenty of people who w...@Vanilla<br />'And there are plenty of people who want to work or are too ill to work and who are fed up with being constantly stigmatised. Sigh.'<br /><br />I'm sure there are people who want to work but they want a particular kind of work. There are plenty of crappy badly paid jobs that they could do... why are migrants still flocking in if they're aren't such jobs? And in turn the more migrants you have the greater the labour supply and the lower the wages. <br /><br />I worked illegally for nearly two years in three different countries and the unemployment rates were about 6-8%. I had no difficulty finding work .. one of my jobs was apple picking in Washington state with Mexicans and other Latin Americans. There was no US citizens pickers but there were millions of them unemployed, on welfare. The work was hard and the pay was so so. I'm not saying that people shouldn't take these jobs. I'm saying this is what happens and why.Mr. Divinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07052431203238859217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-85406372915319769822009-07-26T02:15:42.622+01:002009-07-26T02:15:42.622+01:00Vanilla Rose: HTML-style, e.g.
<a href="h...Vanilla Rose: HTML-style, e.g.<br /><br /><a href="http://example.com">Example link</a><br /><br />will generate<br /><br /><a href="http://example.com" rel="nofollow">Example link</a>Anonymous001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-84893161439561298792009-07-25T17:11:59.614+01:002009-07-25T17:11:59.614+01:00If the environmental effect of imported food is ta...If the environmental effect of imported food is taken into account through use of fuel duty, there would be no further need to encourage local agriculture. <br />I`d imagine that to grow bannanas in britain is going to use a lot more electricity than it does to grow them in JamaicaMarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-57070974353489946382009-07-25T15:25:56.071+01:002009-07-25T15:25:56.071+01:00Sorry, that's clearly not the way to make a li...Sorry, that's clearly not the way to make a link here, can someone enlighten me?Vanilla Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946634138308342764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-75380993515776626782009-07-25T15:25:32.844+01:002009-07-25T15:25:32.844+01:00[url]http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/22-04-2009-...[url]http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/22-04-2009-caroline-budget-betrayal.html[/url]Vanilla Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946634138308342764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-91114608143416469752009-07-25T14:45:53.018+01:002009-07-25T14:45:53.018+01:00Also @ Spango - why are you assuming that locally ...Also @ Spango - why are you assuming that locally grown food would be more expensive, especially if the environmental cost of imported food were taken into account when taxes subsidies and stuff were arranged? Cite your source of the 50% figure you quote.Vanilla Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946634138308342764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-15567282004876940172009-07-25T14:30:39.947+01:002009-07-25T14:30:39.947+01:00And there are plenty of people who want to work or...And there are plenty of people who want to work or are too ill to work and who are fed up with being constantly stigmatised. Sigh.Vanilla Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946634138308342764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-69358265064802891412009-07-25T09:50:55.154+01:002009-07-25T09:50:55.154+01:00There are no poor people. There is no working cla...There are no poor people. There is no working class or middle class. There are people who work and are rewarded differently. Their work is a pain for most of them .. if they won the lottery .. if. And the ones who are well paid are quite often those who spend long hours doing what they don't want to do. It doesn't matter if you live in a terrace house or a smart detached your life is unfulfilled.<br /><br />Some people prefer to live on welfare payments than work. And I mean who can blame them for the payment of low paid work is not much above the welfare payment. Legal and illegal migrants come in and fill the void especially in the hospitality industry. They can't fall back on social security.<br /><br />In short all this stuff about poor, working and middle class is old hat analysis.Mr. Divinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07052431203238859217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-26945348982029245602009-07-25T06:59:34.073+01:002009-07-25T06:59:34.073+01:00I think Anonymous and Penny Red are talking crap b...I think Anonymous and Penny Red are talking crap but I couldn't be arsed to explain.Mr. Divinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07052431203238859217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-35100052995251545632009-07-24T16:22:17.390+01:002009-07-24T16:22:17.390+01:00Besides which there are worse things than growing ...Besides which there are worse things than growing up poor. <br />I grew up with emotionally distant parents. Where is my cuddle tax?Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-71192672195085447852009-07-24T16:20:00.166+01:002009-07-24T16:20:00.166+01:00That`s the problem isn`t it. The working class are...That`s the problem isn`t it. The working class are perfectly capable of talking for themselves. Penny, are you suggesting that the lower classes are too thick to express themselves, or what? <br /><br />According to you they don`t actually want anything but more. <br />Shouldn`t be too hard for them to say that for themselves. <br /><br />I WAN` MORE!!!!<br />NO FAIR MUMMY!!!!Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-27680469310409935262009-07-24T15:52:56.740+01:002009-07-24T15:52:56.740+01:00It's a totally fair comment. What I've got...It's a totally fair comment. What I've got to go on is research, the experience of my friends and family, and people I've met. Not all of my housemates are middle class, though - that's a presumption on your part. You're assuming lots about my life experience that I haven't mentioned on this blog.Penny Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07677315565893516941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-39169790140373981812009-07-24T15:38:05.024+01:002009-07-24T15:38:05.024+01:00It matters because you don't understand the ex...It matters because you don't understand the experiences of who haven't experienced the privileges of being middle class, private and oxbridge educated. You don't know about people who really are poor and dispossessed and don't possess the advantages that will pull you and your housemates back into the middle classes give a few years and the recession aging. You are speaking for them from your platform but you are not speaking to them. Speaking for someone who can't is great but you need to be bloody sure you are their mouthpiece and not put words in their mouths. The latter is arrogant, presumptuous and inappropriate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-82614935071660892592009-07-24T14:22:22.700+01:002009-07-24T14:22:22.700+01:00*grin*
Cut your hair and get a job
Smoke some fags...*grin*<br />Cut your hair and get a job<br />Smoke some fags and play some pool<br />Pretend you never went to school<br />And still you'll never get it right<br />Cause when you're lying there at night<br />Watching roaches climb the wall<br />If you called your dad, he could stop it all...Penny Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07677315565893516941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-29539466285905809772009-07-24T14:15:26.183+01:002009-07-24T14:15:26.183+01:00I took her to a supermarket.
I don't know why ...I took her to a supermarket.<br />I don't know why but I had to start it somewhere.<br />So I started there.<br />Also I needed some milk.Neuroskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06647064768789308157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-45883286827584735892009-07-24T13:39:35.741+01:002009-07-24T13:39:35.741+01:00@ Spango, I notice you've neatly ignored the m...@ Spango, I notice you've neatly ignored the money that would be saved by not paying for Trident, and reductions in fuel bills resulting from energy efficiency. To name but two examples.Vanilla Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946634138308342764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-1345750374736486512009-07-24T13:34:26.334+01:002009-07-24T13:34:26.334+01:00Anon
I wouldn't say Penny Red is snobbish. I ...Anon<br />I wouldn't say Penny Red is snobbish. I disagree with quite a few things she says but it's like she speaks fom her heart and that is all that matters. I couldn't care shit her background or qualifications. <br /><br />What I noticed the last time I went back to England is reverse snobbery. This is when people look down upon someone because they are educated or posh. A bit like what you've just done with Penny Red.<br /><br />Some guy tried to pull it off with. It was in Durham and he was doing a political rant and I answered one of his questions. And then I asked him one.<br /><br />He said something like, 'You're not from round here, you've been educated'<br />'So what if have or I haven't'<br />"Well it matters' he says. ' And then he tried to belittle because my voice sounded educated.<br /><br />So I put on me strongest scouse accent and said something like, 'Does it make a difference now that I'm talking to you like fucking this?'<br />And I repeated the question.<br /><br />Anon: Reverse Snob<br /><br />2B contMr. Divinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07052431203238859217noreply@blogger.com