tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post2535566294342743093..comments2024-03-28T09:13:28.093+00:00Comments on Penny Red: High heels and low lives...Penny Redhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07677315565893516941noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-5438110535820263882019-09-16T14:24:20.882+01:002019-09-16T14:24:20.882+01:00I know that these important tips will help you to ...I know that these <a href="https://topspyingapps.com/hack-facebook-account/" rel="nofollow">important tips</a> will help you to learn how to hack a facebook account. 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What does that have to do with my actual ability to be an actuary?" What does it mean??????Vanilla Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946634138308342764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-35818001883334733342009-09-30T18:47:00.190+01:002009-09-30T18:47:00.190+01:00Hi Laurie, I just wanted to drop you a message as ...Hi Laurie, I just wanted to drop you a message as I was at the Progress event last night as well - I was the girl Iain Dale kept denying the microphone to! Tosser... <br />I wanted to meet you because I am a big fan of your blog, and having read you for a few weeks, I was inspired to set up my own blog (girlinapresshat.blogspot.com). Unfortunately I had tp run off to get to another event but, er, hi! Hope you've enjoyed the conference, I feel I've been stalked by John Denham as we both seem to keep appearing at the same events!Girl In A Press Hathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16383242553140278252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-39708904279602982272009-09-30T15:31:28.715+01:002009-09-30T15:31:28.715+01:00I'm a (straight) male, and I'm continually...I'm a (straight) male, and I'm continually baffled by this obsession with heels. I actually find sensible shoes far more attractive, in fact I actively *dislike* the way heels change the shape of the leg/bum/etc. Not to mention the fact that any fashion item that is restrictive, unhealthy or otherwise impractical is a bit of a turnoff for me.<br /><br />But all that aside, I'm also baffled by this strawman of "they want to ban heels" when that's clearly not what's being discussed. Oh and Dorries can fuck right off, the moralistic right-wing arsehole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-54633220132043266672009-09-30T13:56:55.954+01:002009-09-30T13:56:55.954+01:00Had a chance to read other posts/comments. Impress...Had a chance to read other posts/comments. Impressed with your blog; you're on my link list. Will follow your work with interest and hawk it out when poss.Philipahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440234602399886097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-5408913708067084872009-09-30T13:04:40.550+01:002009-09-30T13:04:40.550+01:00RobW wrote, "If a job has some requirement yo...RobW wrote, "If a job has some requirement you don't like don't take the job."<br /><br />WTF should employers impose requirements that are irrelevant to the job?"Vanilla Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946634138308342764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-50408391429199858442009-09-30T12:27:10.636+01:002009-09-30T12:27:10.636+01:00@ RobW: So women shouldn't take jobs at city f...@ RobW: So women shouldn't take jobs at city firms, where, as Helen pointed out, it is de rigeur for them to wear heels? Don't you think there is enough of a problem with sexism in the city already, without endorsing a culture in which women have to wear harmful things? Yes, ties and trousers are uncomfortable in the heat, but as far as I'm aware they don't damage your spine or your feet. There's a huge difference between comfort and health.Rosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-4725162649707781632009-09-29T19:37:44.253+01:002009-09-29T19:37:44.253+01:00OMG, I didn't realise that high heels were sti...OMG, I didn't realise that high heels were still ompulsory at some workplaces...Stephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-12084295122564154352009-09-29T19:26:36.865+01:002009-09-29T19:26:36.865+01:00Happy BirthdayHappy BirthdayDandelionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12302932867084357713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-75893562726480977062009-09-29T17:15:09.516+01:002009-09-29T17:15:09.516+01:00How dare they restrict our freedom to be ordered t...How dare they restrict our freedom to be ordered to wear certain things!Spirit of 1976https://www.blogger.com/profile/10314554889217669727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-39099508937895761132009-09-29T15:18:57.137+01:002009-09-29T15:18:57.137+01:00Ditto to Josie - it totally confuzzles me how peop...Ditto to Josie - it totally confuzzles me how people think defending the VOLUNTARY wearing of high-heels has anything to do with the banning of COMPULSORY wearing of high-heels...<br /><br />This is one of those things that kinda make me want to go get a job in a place where it is compulsory for women to wear heels just so I can wear my flats in defiance. (Much like a desire last year to get a job in the law firm banning women from wearing fishnet tights, just so I could turn up in not only fishnet tights but fishnet sleeves, perhaps a fishnet hat, and maybe even with a fishnet handbag.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-30706127479077941972009-09-29T15:08:44.871+01:002009-09-29T15:08:44.871+01:00Oh, and on the subject of heels-as-fashion (rather...Oh, and on the subject of heels-as-fashion (rather than compulsory workwear) - I was thrilled to see <a href="http://www.dontpaniconline.com/magazine/foreign/guys-in-heels" rel="nofollow">this article</a> on men picking up on the high heel trend. While I ten not to hold with the "objectify everyone equally!" version of gender equality, I cannot help feeling this is a good thing. Men look <a href="http://www.dontpaniconline.com/includes/phpthumb/phpThumb.php?src=/var/uploads/mag/images/photo_1253100953.jpg&aoe=1&w=305&h=406" rel="nofollow">just as good</a> in heels as women. As long as they aren't obliged to wear them to work. ;)Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03022156242687098270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-44220532376575825792009-09-29T14:10:08.526+01:002009-09-29T14:10:08.526+01:00It's true - most of the people objecting appea...It's true - most of the people objecting appear to be fighting against a strawman.CJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-41627071207243869342009-09-29T13:10:55.637+01:002009-09-29T13:10:55.637+01:00Does Ms Dorries realise that nobody is trying to P...Does Ms Dorries realise that nobody is trying to PREVENT her wearing her heels? If heels are so great (and they are, although the one time I have seen my burlesque teacher in "everyday" clothing she was wearing Crocs!), then surely it is absolutely right that women should be wearing them out of CHOICE.Vanilla Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946634138308342764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-42961020883029399972009-09-29T13:08:46.782+01:002009-09-29T13:08:46.782+01:00There is another point to be made here. If a job h...There is another point to be made here. If a job has some requirement you don't like don't take the job. <br /><br />Also in most jobs men are not allowed to wear shorts in the summer. Even though women can wear skirts. And women are not forced to wear ties in the summer or even generally. Both of which can make working very unconfortable.RobWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255978974948870928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-14101899804323136012009-09-29T12:56:59.148+01:002009-09-29T12:56:59.148+01:00I think your paragraph on corsets is bang on. Stil...I think your paragraph on corsets is bang on. Stiletto heels should be a niche fetish item, not a compulsory part of a professional wardrobe. My favourite place to wear them is in bed, where I don't have to walk on them.<br /><br />Nadine Dorries seems to be getting herself into a flap as if she'd never be permitted to wear them again. Mind you, they aren't officially mandatory for MPs - but the City has its own culture, and I know when I've worked as a high-powered PA or legal secretary in London, high heels are seen as being as much a part of the dress code as a buttoned shirt or blouse.<br /><br />Banning any compulsory dress code that enforces high heel wear - especially in jobs where the wearer are on their feet for long hours - seems like common sense. But it won't solve the cultural problem, which is that women would, I think, in many circumstances still be expected to voluntarily wear heels or risk the consequences of non-conforming.<br /><br />Of course this is massively discriminatory. But so is the culture I'm talking about. Last year, as you know, I worked for a short while as a PA in a City recruitment firm. Not wearing high heels to interview was on a par with having a regional accent or not being perfectly coiffed and made up - it's about being "polished". Any woman (and it was always woman) who didn't live up to the recruiters idea of "polished" - which included old, non-white or fat - wouldn't be considered for a role.<br /><br />The problem here isn't high heels per se, it's an office culture that caters to the fantasies of powerful old men who want the women in their workplace to fit their idea of attractiveness. I'm not sure systemic change is achievable while this generation still make up the majority of bosses in that sector. But I'm also concerned that the women and men replacing them don't feel the need to buck the trend.Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03022156242687098270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-74190133764032877442009-09-29T12:19:27.038+01:002009-09-29T12:19:27.038+01:00I thought that having different dress codes for me...I thought that having different dress codes for men and women was illegal under gender discrimination laws.<br /><br />Citing this is how I got our dress code changed (we used to have different lists of acceptable clothing for men and women).<br />Surely any dress code that says that high heels are compusery for women and not men can be changed on this basis (?)<br /><br />As for situations where heels present a H&S issue gender doesn't enter into the arguement - if they're nto safe they shouldn't be worn.Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-2707139957363068842009-09-29T12:06:38.308+01:002009-09-29T12:06:38.308+01:00I agree with Josie, above, that being forced to we...I agree with Josie, above, that being forced to wear heels is ridiculous and also wrong.<br /><br />I agree with you, Penny Red, that "<i>As a feminist, a fashion-lover and a fellow short-arse, I find that sentiment wobblier than a pair of thousand-dollar Manolos.<br />I don't need high heels to look a man in the eye. It's not that I disapprove of high heels, more that I've mentally filed them into the box of things that other people inexplicably seem to get very excited about, along with indoor rockclimbing, curry-flavoured potnoodles and David Cameron.</i><br /><br />But I would add that I always wore heels at work (and don't miss that - I'm exactly the same height as Peter Hitchens so if you imagine him head to toe in LK Bennet you get the picture) because the other ladies did and you are always, quietly, competing. Your overall presentation and image matters (and according to the film 'Kinky Boots' high heels raise the buttocks ready for mating) So whilst I disagree that high heels are compulsory in the work place, they kindof still are. Only rules enforcing 'sensible' shoes would get rid of that.Philipahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440234602399886097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-67332411098448739902009-09-29T11:39:08.571+01:002009-09-29T11:39:08.571+01:00I find this absolutely ridiculus. It seems as thou...I find this absolutely ridiculus. It seems as though people have got confused and think that high heels are being banned COMPLETELY, whereas it's just compulsory heel-wearing that's being banned, no?? The concept of compulsory heel-wearing to me is on a par with trousers being banned, if not worse because of the pain and injury involved.<br />As someone who's 6ft tall (and can also not walk in heels, partly because at such an absurd height it's hard enough to stay balanced!!!!) i would reject a job where i was forced to wear heels. Being forced to wear heels would just be hideous.Josiehttp://king-josie.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.com