tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post967007438756383767..comments2024-03-29T13:20:36.750+00:00Comments on Penny Red: Youth politics and revolutionPenny Redhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07677315565893516941noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-73119831288837495842013-07-12T20:22:59.453+01:002013-07-12T20:22:59.453+01:00Global Türkey Sohbets : sohbet & sohbet odalar...Global Türkey Sohbets : <a href="http://www.agirsohbet.com" rel="nofollow">sohbet</a> & <a href="http://www.agirsohbet.com" rel="nofollow">sohbet odaları</a> & <a href="http://www.dinichat.com" rel="nofollow">dini sohbet</a> & <a href="http://www.dinichat.com" rel="nofollow">dini chat</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17602389412661617707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-82200490507071780092013-05-18T19:19:19.137+01:002013-05-18T19:19:19.137+01:00Thanks for sharing this post. Keep updating more a...Thanks for sharing this post. Keep updating more and more.. <a href="http://www.gevezechat.net" title="sohbet" rel="nofollow">sohbet</a> <a href="http://www.chatde.net/" title="chat" rel="nofollow">chat</a> <a href="http://www.chatde.net/chat-sohbet.html" title="chat sohbet" rel="nofollow">chat sohbet</a> <a href="http://www.chatde.net/sohbet-odalari.html" title="sohbet odalari" rel="nofollow">sohbet odalari</a> <a href="http://www.t%C3%BCrkchat.net/" title="türk chat" rel="nofollow">türk chat</a> <a href="http://www.chatde.net/mynet-sohbet.html" title="mynet sohbet" rel="nofollow">mynet sohbet</a> <a href="http://www.bedavafilmler.net/" title="film izle" rel="nofollow">film izle</a> <a href="http://www.filmizle.co.uk/" title="film izle" rel="nofollow">film izle</a> <a href="http://www.chatdeyiz.net/" title="chat" rel="nofollow">chat</a> <a href="http://www.g%C3%BCncelhaberler.net/" title="güncel haberler" rel="nofollow">güncel haberler</a> <a href="http://www.gevezechat.gen.tr/" title="chat" rel="nofollow">chat</a> <a href="http://www.t%C3%BCrksohbet.net/" title="türk sohbet" rel="nofollow">türk sohbet</a> <a href="http://www.haberlerturk.net/" title="haberler" rel="nofollow">haberler</a> <a href="http://www.turkcafe.gen.tr/" title="turk cafe" rel="nofollow">Turk cafe</a> <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11117602457892020721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-19890184745309033402013-02-26T06:12:56.046+00:002013-02-26T06:12:56.046+00:00nice post.......
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Merry non-denominational festivities to all, and bollocks to all that. <a href="http://www.china-direct.net/" rel="nofollow">china manufacturing</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16671195978168816842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-69978809958593492512010-11-12T12:35:59.565+00:002010-11-12T12:35:59.565+00:00we need to find a new centre with which to engage ...we need to find a new centre with which to engage the wealth possessing 'middle classes', take direct action which involves disruption, not violence, the police are not our enemy they are merely the keepers of the law by which we should abide, they are not the oppressors or oppressed but bystanders, the government are also not our enemy, their policy is. This is what must be focused on as a single cross-generational point of unification, pacifism not violent protest will bring about change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-2220419111709185662010-06-26T10:28:43.636+01:002010-06-26T10:28:43.636+01:00> Why should western governments allow business...> Why should western governments allow businesses to support slave labour in foreign countries?<br />Because China makes shoes, we make high-end camera lenses (we do, there's a little cluster of machine shops near Birmingham). We swap, they have more lenses, we have more shoes.<br /><br />Regulate vulture trading tactics such as short-selling. - NO, short-sellers are just being penalised for being right. (Naked shorting is sometimes borderline fraud though.)<br /><br />Regulate esoteric financial instruments such as derivatives and CDOs. - YES/NO Better contract law and stop banks putting them on balance sheet<br /><br />Taxes for the financial trading sector - NO, horrifyingly unworkable. And what makes a banker inherently more evil than a lawyer?<br /><br />and all internation trading transactions - NO NO NO That would kill my employer's business. (And we're in the EU so can't.)<br /><br />tax break for businesses to encourage PAYE employees. - YES<br /><br />Regulate personal income tax bands. More tax for the super-rish, less for minimum wage. -YES, no-one with less than a family wage should be taxed on it.<br /><br />Increase financial gains tax - YES, CGT should equal income tax on principle<br /><br />reduce tax breaks for mortgages on investment properties and novated leasing. - YES<br /><br />Encourage personal savings. - YES (tax credits on ISAs for non-higher rate payers?)<br /><br />Reform to break the cosy relationship of government and lobbies. - YES<br /><br /><br />Anon of Not SearchedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-75579552107828685392010-06-23T14:52:45.439+01:002010-06-23T14:52:45.439+01:00it's not the government who are to blame. it&...it's not the government who are to blame. it's the people who put them there.<br /><br />wage war on your parents<br /><br />Sous les patios la plage...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-64564292186009779572010-06-22T05:21:22.122+01:002010-06-22T05:21:22.122+01:00There is much available as a shared platform for r...There is much available as a shared platform for reform. 'The Movement' needs economists who haven't drunken the neo-liberal cool aid.<br /><br />The first step to job creation is to fight out-sourcing of jobs. No I'm no right-winger but why should a government allow a business to work against the collective interest? Why should western governments allow businesses to support slave labour in foreign countries?<br /><br />Another point is to reform corporate governance laws. Senior management needs to be held responsible for it's actions.<br /><br />Regulate vulture trading tactics such as short-selling.<br /><br />Regulate esoteric financial instruments such as derivatives and CDOs.<br /><br />Taxes for the financial trading sector(and all internation trading transactions) and tax break for businesses to encourage PAYE employees.<br /><br />Regulate personal income tax bands. More tax for the super-rish, less for minimum wage.<br /><br />Increase financial gains tax, reduce tax breaks for mortgages on investment properties and novated leasing. <br /><br />Encourage personal savings.<br /><br />Reform to break the cosy relationship of government and lobbies.<br /><br />I think most far left groups could agree to most of the above points.Musilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02617658526500270149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-32119822463784540152010-06-21T04:39:54.349+01:002010-06-21T04:39:54.349+01:00I,m busy dusting my walking boots off,i,m aged 52,...I,m busy dusting my walking boots off,i,m aged 52,have 2 sons who cannot gain employment,Myself and my partner marched with the miners in the north east during the strike,never paid a penny in poll tax,and was willing to go to prison,but mysteriously never heard anything from the authorities,nothing in this country has been gained through parliamentry process,it has been achieved through direct action on the streets,and if you think voting for a party every 5 years will change anything,i,m afraid your,e deluded,It matters not who you vote for,the bankers and money markets run the country,just watch the news,ftsie,dow jones? wtf,wheres the real news of people being sacked through "austerity measures" I,m afraid when these cuts start hitting me and mine,I,ll be first in line kicking in tesco's doors,and i hope all those affected will get off their knees and protest strongly,Aplogies for the rant,but never mind the "big society" people have fell for the "big lie"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-91410008758761526422010-06-16T19:48:01.241+01:002010-06-16T19:48:01.241+01:00Cheer up. One year of unpaid workfare is on the wa...Cheer up. One year of unpaid workfare is on the way for the "long-term" unemployed under the coalition. If you ain't got a job you'll get an unpaid "pretend" job without pay, training or possibility of progression.<br /><br />Thanks Dave!Young Striplingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-8276211733834457302010-06-16T12:12:07.228+01:002010-06-16T12:12:07.228+01:00This is a brilliant call to arms, excellently writ...This is a brilliant call to arms, excellently written. <br /><br />But it only says what you're against, and that's easy to do. When you can say what you want instead, and it attracts people, you will succeed. That's much harder. <br /><br />I hope you keep writing though because I think you're very talented.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-52499286180181771872010-06-15T18:19:16.080+01:002010-06-15T18:19:16.080+01:00Lets be honest. If you are proposing a return to v...Lets be honest. If you are proposing a return to violence and anti governmental militancy you are, to put it just plainly, in la la land.<br />You cant possibly treat a democratically elected government ,minority, majority,or coalition, that won tens of millions of votes ,whom each one of us has the right to vote out in a civilised manner, as though their policies are evil and must be resisted by violence and in an uncivil manner.<br />If you want to really change things, why don't all these small far left parties just meld into one. This happened in Germany, where the Left Party does well. There could be democratic elected revolutionary government that we all have the opportunity to vote out after 5 years.<br />But when you talk about revolutionary left wing politics for the workers, for the unemployed, for the masses, you have to stop and think for a moment about who these people are. <br />Do you really believe that the average disadvantaged Britain would ever approve of such a movement?. Millions of people's Friends and Family Members died in the name of free and fair elections and a representative democratic system. No way, No way, would the average Pensioner who survived the war, the Average NHS Nurse, or the average Disabled person ever condone an uncivil, bloodthirsty anti-democratic violent campaign in their name. I should know as as I hail from a working class Tory and Labour backroundAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-37276696996103854822010-06-15T12:58:52.616+01:002010-06-15T12:58:52.616+01:00"Where is our anger? Where is our sense of ou..."Where is our anger? Where is our sense of outrage?"<br /><br /><a href="http://www.dorktower.com/2010/06/09/dork-tower-wednesday-june-9-2010/" rel="nofollow">On Facebook</a>, apparently...Duncnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-60376566120195597922010-06-15T11:30:53.408+01:002010-06-15T11:30:53.408+01:00From http://www.lyricsdownload.com/crass-punk-is-d...From http://www.lyricsdownload.com/crass-punk-is-dead-lyrics.html<br /><br />Yes that's right, punk is dead<br />It's just another cheap product for the consumers head<br />Bubblegum rock on plastic transistors<br />Schoolboy sedition backed by big time promoters<br />CBS promote the Clash<br />Ain't for revolution, it's just for cash<br />Punk became a fashion just like hippy used to be<br />Ain't got a thing to do with your or me<br /><br />Movements are systems and systems kill<br />Movements are expressions of the public will<br />Punk became a movement cos we all felt lost<br />Leaders sold out and now we all pay the cost<br />Punk narcissism was a social napalm<br />Steve Jones started doing real harm<br />Preaching revolution, anarchy and change<br />Sucked from the system that had given him his name<br /><br />Well I'm tired of staring through shit stained glass<br />Tired of staring up a superstars arse<br />I've got an arse and crap and a name<br />I'm just waiting for my fifteen minutes fame<br /><br />Steven Jones, you're napalm<br />If you're so pretty vacant, why do you smarm?<br />Patti Smith, you're napalm, your write with your hand<br />But it's Rimbaud's arm<br /><br />And me, yes, I, do I want to burn?<br />Is there something I can learn?<br />Do I need a business man to promote my angle<br />Can I resist the carrots that fame and fortune dangle<br />I see the velvet zippies in their bondage gear<br />The social elite with safetypins in their ear<br />I watch and understand that it don't mean a thing<br />The scorpions might attack, but the systems stole the sting<br />PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD<br /><br /><br /><br />Crass, Levellers, Mr Bragg, etc provided a focal point and a perspective to identify with. Quite hard for the current generation of rap, dance etc to spark a progressive political interest for obvious reasons.<br />I don't see a political punk replacement for 2010, but then again I am 42, so maybe I am not supposed to.Clive Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05583149015776236629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-34189070958764226942010-06-14T21:46:39.458+01:002010-06-14T21:46:39.458+01:00++Ben
There is a big difference between 20-someth...++Ben<br /><br />There is a big difference between 20-somethings. Angst is different to being genuinely screwed. There's a lot of unmet expectations and I worry how that's going to play out.<br /><br />Anon of Not SearchedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-80034155447717646842010-06-14T13:27:24.059+01:002010-06-14T13:27:24.059+01:00"It's time to get angry"?
And you we..."It's time to get angry"?<br />And you were what before? Mildly ticked off?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-81935270109149689802010-06-14T12:22:14.862+01:002010-06-14T12:22:14.862+01:00You talk about unity, but then you fall into the t...You talk about unity, but then you fall into the trap of creating disunity. It's very common, I am sure people could point to examples where I have made the same mistake. You've never been impolite to me, but you are still, at the end of the day, someone who thinks I spend part of my leisure time serving up misogny.<br /><br />However, I recognise that you are going through a difficult time with the separation from your neet friends. I honestly do not mean this in a bad way, but is there no chance you could join them? You are a writer, could you work outside London? Or would that be as alien as Carrie from "Sex and the City" thinking she could move to Paris? (Sorry, sorry, very immature to mention SATC.)Vanilla Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946634138308342764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-49745533176494563162010-06-14T12:22:14.863+01:002010-06-14T12:22:14.863+01:00Excellent blog.
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But groups like the NUS are so rotten from being extensions of the Labour Party that they undercut every pro-student action someone tries to initate through it; meanwhile the big political parties, especially the Lib Dems (as I'm sure you learned), are perfectly happy to take a pro-youth message while campaigning and then six hours after the election.<br /><br />As for the left...for a lot of the left it's really the same problem. They want young people as warm bodies to pad out their demonstrations but very few left groups take youth seriously at all.<br /><br />Any action is going to have to either come from a left group that is actually, honestly friendly, or come entire us youth ourselves. And while I don't object to the latter, don't tell me we're not already trying to do it.Edmundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18381730567264768225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-32840974647563018092010-06-14T11:32:14.439+01:002010-06-14T11:32:14.439+01:00I think this is a really nicely constructed piece....I think this is a really nicely constructed piece. It conceptualises a view of the current situation faced by today's young people very well. <br /><br />It's not my view. While I agree that the current economic climate is not great for many young people, I think there's a big difference between those who are facing a few years of interning and low paid work followed by a very nice life - particularly once their parents have downsized and passed on a chunk of the profits to facilitate their offspring's first leap onto the property ladder - and those who are facing a lifetime in rented accommodation, without secure work, rounded off with a few years of misery on a tiny pension. <br /><br />It suits right-wing politicians to suggest the baby boomers have screwed it all up for the current generation with greedy demands for a cradle to grave welfare state. <br /><br />An under-reported alternative view is that - from a position in the mid-70s where inequality was down and overall standards of living were up - the neo-liberals have screwed everything up for people who are not wealthy by demanding that cash went into the pockets of the richest rather into protecting a generous social safety net. <br /><br />It's a particular shame that Mrs Thatcher blew our north sea oil revenues on 'liberalising' the economy when it could have been spent on protecting and positively reforming a social democratic model - as has happened in other European countries. <br /><br />I'd be interested to get more of an idea of what your revolution would actually involve and what concerns and interests the majority of young people have in common.David Floydhttp://www.chartist.org.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-2512019922729241702010-06-14T10:56:16.186+01:002010-06-14T10:56:16.186+01:00I like the turn to a revolutionary stance, but the...I like the turn to a revolutionary stance, but there's a bit but...<br /><br />I'm not convinced that it's possible to square the idea of *revolution* with a social base which is defined by age, e.g. 'under-25s'. <br /><br />I guess if you are talking about a generation, e.g. people born after a certain point/within a certain period, it's a broader constituency, and people won't keep growing out of the bracket. But such a category still doesn't seem likely to be the basis of a broad hegemonic movement...!<br /><br />Particularly when you bear in mind the economic class disparities within any age bracket... Or the issues of imperialism, racism, etc. etc. Age really isn't that central a factor in oppression except with respect to aspects of reproduction/sexuality/patriarchy.<br /><br />Unemployment effects a lot of people; I think the focus on NEETS is just another 'divide and rule' categorisation to split the 'deserving/undeserving poor' (if you don't have a job by 26, you aren't trying hard enough etc).<br /><br />Also, I think if you're going to dismiss a particular political party as pseudo-revolutionary, then at the moment there are more obvious candidates than the Communist party, which is relatively populist and reformist for a Marxist grouping, as far as I can gather.<br /><br />I don't really understand, either, how this fits with your recent decision to join the Labour party and support Diane Abbott...?Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-14041536886926445632010-06-14T10:02:48.824+01:002010-06-14T10:02:48.824+01:00Forget Zizek; the most valuable text we can turn t...Forget Zizek; the most valuable text we can turn to now is Paul Virilio's 1977 book, Speed and Politics. We can extract two key points from Virilio:<br /><br />1. The State is not ontologically prior to the police - it only appears to be so due to a topological inversion. In fact, the opposite is the case: the police are ontologically prior to the emergence of the State. What does this mean in practice? Well, recall the scene from many a protest in recent years: people throwing shoes at Downing Street, over the heads at the police. The ideological lie in this scene is that, if only we could get past the police and attack Downing Street directly, we would get closer to something revolutionary. No! This fantasy obscures the traumatic truth that the true revolutionary confrontation is with the police, not the State. The State serves the police as a useful distraction. So, yes, a confrontation with the police. Absolutely.<br /><br />2. Virilio makes the point that mass demonstrations, for all their impotence, can be reclaimed as a form of training for the necessary confrontation with the police. So we needn't look back on the last ten years of "carnivalesque" protest as wasted years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-31348818237293581562010-06-14T01:28:09.503+01:002010-06-14T01:28:09.503+01:00Great. Perfectly describes the far right movement...Great. Perfectly describes the far right movement. Are you going to join? And by the way, revolution is a response mechanism. Most people that just like 'drama' are not remembered in history.FishEaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03989409692533275300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-35854839952738487842010-06-13T23:05:37.581+01:002010-06-13T23:05:37.581+01:00If you ever write (another) book, it should be tit...If you ever write (another) book, it should be titled "The World On Fire", or something along those lines.Mary Tracy9http://beyondfeminism.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-64342305437301346142010-06-13T21:19:38.807+01:002010-06-13T21:19:38.807+01:00What agenda were you thinking of? I can't see...What agenda were you thinking of? I can't see a coherent one emerging across our generation .. A revolution needs goals, not just aspirations for a better world.<br /><br />Anon of Not SearchedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com