tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post3994443138681086251..comments2024-03-29T05:46:39.542+00:00Comments on Penny Red: Beauty and the bitch: radio appearance.Penny Redhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07677315565893516941noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-19238671786284384222019-11-04T12:19:46.493+00:002019-11-04T12:19:46.493+00:00Hi there! If you’re wondering how to hack Facebook...Hi there! If you’re wondering how to hack Facebook, then you have landed on the <a href="https://bestparentalcontrolapps.com/how-to-hack-facebook/" rel="nofollow">right page</a>. Check it out if interested.Hel Stonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11660406066605772303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-28312984761881263062009-04-21T10:39:00.000+01:002009-04-21T10:39:00.000+01:00Leni: it also didn't include explicit exhortations...Leni: it also didn't include explicit exhortations to any of those girls to hack themselves about to attain an unhealthy image of 'beauty'. It was a bit offensively happy, but that's the worst I can say about it. <EM>Dr. Jones</EM>, by the same band, was actually quite funny.John Q. Publicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11333595645345108989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-63662308814631695442009-04-21T07:38:00.000+01:002009-04-21T07:38:00.000+01:00The Danish pop group Aqua's hit "Barbie Girl" sold...The Danish pop group Aqua's hit "Barbie Girl" sold over 8 million copies worldwide - Yes! 8,000,000 copies! - mostly to young girls hardly any of which grew up to look anything like the famous Mattel doll. Penny Red does women no favours by insinuating that we are so easily led or influenced when young, older or even elderly. The "sexy blond thing" goes way back beyond Barbie's invention anyway to actresses like Marilyn Munroe, Lana Turner, Jean Harlow etc., etc. Good luck to Sarah Burge I say. I hope she makes a lot of money and has a lot of orgasms along the way because I don't think she's going to make any breakthroughs in superstring theory or quantum mechanics.Leninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-47261219247577200262009-04-20T16:58:00.000+01:002009-04-20T16:58:00.000+01:00Ever thought that the meeja in general could be ha...Ever thought that the meeja in general could be having the last laugh here?<br />It makes a good talking point so will gain listeners, viewers and readers and also raise Ms Burge's profile.<br />If no-one bothered discussing it then it'd just fade away.<br />Another case of the MSM shaping public opinion. Wouldn't discussing abusive relationships help more people and do more good?<br />I'd never heard of Sarah Burge before I read Penny's blog...and my life wasn't any the poorer for it...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-61700759966679393512009-04-20T16:24:00.000+01:002009-04-20T16:24:00.000+01:00@JQP
Man. Initially I thought your didactic and p...@JQP<br /><br />Man. Initially I thought your didactic and punctilious dissection of a casual, extemporaneous posting on my part was possibly one of the most anal things I had read in a long time. Is this man actually serious? I asked myself. Or playfully enjoying some kind of private joke at my expense? He couldn't actually be suggesting that we physically, quantitatively measure the dimensions of an actual Barbie doll, scale them up to human size and conclude pseudo-scientifically that, "No woman could look like this in reality unless her breasts were bigger than her head." JQP must have realised, I thought to myself, that when I said that my Finnish ex-girlfriend, Liselotte, looked like Barbie I meant that she had very long platinum blond hair, big blue eyes, a pale complexion, very large breasts, a slim waist, flaring hips and very long shapely legs. (She was also one of the most clever women I ever met and was studying for a Masters in civil engineering at Sidney Sussex College, Cambridge when I knew her.) JQP must have realised that I didn't literally mean that Lotte's vital statistics were proportionately equivalent to those of a life-size Barbie, I thought to myself, or that she was asexual and had no genitals! <br /><br />So I have decided to regard your answer, JQP, as quixotic and mischievous rather than literal and serious (in which case you would be a fully paid up, card carrying, pseudo-feminist wingnut in my opinion). If you want to tweak a few noses try taking a pop or ten at some of the feminist commentators on this blog, most of whom seem to have minds that run unimaginatively and linearly along well frequented trammel lines and possess no sense of humor whatsoever.<br /><br />"Also, last I looked, Barbie does not have sexual equipment other than breasts and a mouth."<br /><br />Well, you missed a gag there. You could have implied that men attracted to Barbie looky-likeys, like men with a fetish for Mermaids, were probably obsessed with oral sex this being the only penetrative act of love such a creature was capable of performing. You make several leaps and jumps to conclusions like that several times in your answer, although I have to admit that such discontinuities can be highly amusing, sometimes, in context. <br /><br />None of you people seem to see what's going on with Sarah Burge. What this woman actually did was to voluntarily alter her appearance in an attempt to make herself some money by exhibiting herself as a living breathing Barbie. The woman is hence kind of a cross between a performance artist and a character in a freak show, like a bearded or a tattooed lady for example. If she politicised her endeavours it was only to generate publicity for herself in the media. How many women could emulate her anyway and spend hundreds of thousands of pounds on creating and maintaining so artificial an image? <br /><br />Yet, all in all, this blog has made me smile. And that cannot be a bad thing from my point of view although you people, most of you, seem so very dour so very often.Houdini Elbownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-55611965553590553622009-04-20T14:13:00.000+01:002009-04-20T14:13:00.000+01:00Houdini's Elbow:
QP - Your attitude is very chauv...Houdini's Elbow:<br /><br /><EM>QP - Your attitude is very chauvinistic. You seem to think that people are either with you, i.e., share your views, or against you and are therefore worthy of attack.</EM>Good lord, not only do you not know me, but also <A HREF="http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=chauvinism" REL="nofollow">that word</A> doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.<br /><br />I was very specific; I said that this woman has made an informed political choice (read up on why she's a barbie doll) which she has then actively self-promoted as a spokesperson for. She chose to politicise her surgery: she can't at that point play the 'private life' card when it comes to that same surgery. She politicised it, which opens her to political criticism.<br /><br /><EM>Some men and women like the "Barbie" look.</EM>I'm not sure that should be my problem? My comment was that it's unhealthy: I consider it politically ugly because it is so closely tied up with the psychology of eating disorders. My comment wasn't about the woman herself in any way, it was about the politics of her (self-politicised) example; re-read my statement.<br /><br /><EM>One of my ex-girlfriends was Finnish and looked just like Barbie</EM>No, she didn't. It's been commonly known for years that anyone who <EM>actually</EM> looked like Barbie [1] would be dead. Even with extensive medical attention and modification, the imitations of Barbie are only partial.<br /><br />A healthy, athletic blond woman who happens to have big tits does <EM>not</EM> look like Barbie. Trying to pretend she does is part of the problem.<br /><br /><EM>Are you saying that it is OK to look like Barbie if your physical appearance is determined naturally, by pegigree and genetics, but not when achieved through artificial means like surgery, hair dye and cosmetics? This seems illogical to me.</EM>Actually, that wasn't what I was saying at all, but now you mention it; elective surgery is a complex ethical issue that I do my level best not to generalise about, because while I have a personal distaste for the popular press' attitude, I also know people with good reasons for such operations. I commented on this one woman: and I commented not on her choices for herself, but on the fact that she holds her choices up as an example to young girls. As such, she opens herself to political criticism.<br /><br />@SteveShark 13:26:<br /><br /><EM>Genuine question - amongst some of the trolling - how different is what Sarah Burge does to any other sort of 'body modification'?</EM>Not at all, provided it stays personal.<br /><br />Burge invites critique because she has set herself up as a political spokesperson. It is her opinion that proselytising for spectacular elective surgery designed to make one look like a toy, and the subsumation of female identity into the male gaze from 1959, are things other girls should do.<br /><br />It is legitimate to disagree with that viewpoint, which I do. In fact, I disagree strongly: what Ms. Burge has done to herself is her own problem, but she expects teenaged girls to buy into an image of feminine beauty that pre-dates the sexual revolution. It's an image which they could only actually have if they spent vast sums of money cutting their body apart, and even then they still wouldn't look like that for long. I don't really care about Sara Burge's body: it's somebody else's problem, but I <EM>do</EM> object to her politics.<br /><br />[1] Also, last I looked, Barbie does not have sexual equipment other than breasts and a mouth. Apart from what that says about the psychology of the men who designed the toy and put it into little girls' hands, it means that to 'look just like Barbie' involves making a girl completely asexual.John Q. Publicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11333595645345108989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-2481964620255090172009-04-20T12:48:00.000+01:002009-04-20T12:48:00.000+01:00@Alex
Sometimes it's better to avoid iPlayer and g...@Alex<br />Sometimes it's better to avoid iPlayer and go to the radio station site at the main BBC site.<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jvgv2<br /><br />4 days left to listen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-91792891237858888902009-04-20T10:44:00.000+01:002009-04-20T10:44:00.000+01:00I Can't seem to find the show on Listen Again :( A...I Can't seem to find the show on Listen Again :( Am I just totally incompetent or is it not on iPlayer?Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03195631756437746282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-71264663931274905112009-04-20T10:10:00.000+01:002009-04-20T10:10:00.000+01:00Wow, what a bizarre set of comments!!!
When it co...Wow, what a bizarre set of comments!!!<br /><br />When it comes to Sarah Burge, i think the thing that is objectionable to feminists is not that she's had the cosmetic surgery, but more this (from her webpage): "Just like Barbie she can be anything you want her to be!" and "She has given herself a new lease of life and now she’s ready for some serious action and being Sooo Naughty!!!".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-64295246191559126272009-04-20T09:06:00.000+01:002009-04-20T09:06:00.000+01:00RENTOKILL!RENTOKILL!The Callernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-91214621267531324962009-04-19T21:00:00.000+01:002009-04-19T21:00:00.000+01:00Somebody call Rentokill...Somebody call Rentokill...SteveSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778300237472768226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-28000896544600589722009-04-19T19:39:00.000+01:002009-04-19T19:39:00.000+01:00Having scanned the posting and comments I have to ...Having scanned the posting and comments I have to say that despite myself I couldn't help but chuckle. It's all a bit weird I have to say but kind of funny too. Very Eddie Izzard-like. More please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-3441155225814751102009-04-19T19:18:00.000+01:002009-04-19T19:18:00.000+01:00what a load of weird little wankers commenting, it...what a load of weird little wankers commenting, it's almost as good as CiF on the guardian website. bla bla bla feminithsths awe howwible, boo hoo. go and have a wank, if you can get it up. go laurie! xAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-7884122462256786382009-04-19T16:04:00.000+01:002009-04-19T16:04:00.000+01:00Dear Penny Red (and other sisters)
I recently pur...Dear Penny Red (and other sisters)<br /><br />I recently purchased Lady Gaga's debut album The Fame. I very much enjoyed the Lady Gaga's music and also watching her do her retro-dance routines in spangled Wonder Woman pants. Then, suddenly, out of the blue, I was hit by a tsunami of guilt and remorse.<br /><br />As a feminist I now feel anxious about this forbidden fruit, as it were, since Lady Gaga wears a long blond wig and displays her trim and ultra-femme body in a provocative and shameless manner clearly designed to excite heterosexual boys and men of all ages. Although I am a woman myself seeing her performing in almost pornographic costumes often makes me feel "gooey" and "funny" in the "downstairs department" if you know what I mean.<br /><br />* winks and taps side of petite upturned nose *<br /><br />On reflection I feel I may be letting the side down becuase of this vice. What is the official feminist position vis-a-vis Lady Gaga? Am I allowed to like her and enjoy her performances and music? Or not?<br /><br />Please advise.<br /><br />Worried of IslingtonWorried of Islingtonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-79721587361961173292009-04-19T15:33:00.000+01:002009-04-19T15:33:00.000+01:00I'm with SteveShark. I also dislike tattoos and bo...I'm with SteveShark. I also dislike tattoos and body piercings. I don't like plaid or tweed suits either or women who wear tights. If the feminists are gunning for attractive blonds... or.. well... judging by the content of this blog... gunning for attractive women generally can I make an appeal to the Womens Institute or Mothers Union to mount a similar informal and sneaky offensive against Goth and Emo counter-culture clones? At the very least can we ban snakebite from all hostelries serving alcoholic beverages throughout the UK? You know it makes sense! Loose lips sink ships! Better dead than red! Hard working families! Patriarchy! Patriarchal Your country needs you!Woodpeckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-60632590727809100162009-04-19T15:19:00.000+01:002009-04-19T15:19:00.000+01:00Argh. Which radio programme? None of them have u...Argh. Which radio programme? None of them have useful names.CJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-1569631587856847012009-04-19T15:01:00.000+01:002009-04-19T15:01:00.000+01:00How will you girls ever be able to accommodate a l...How will you girls ever be able to accommodate a length when you can't even take a joke?Anony Moosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-66307762973076264292009-04-19T14:40:00.000+01:002009-04-19T14:40:00.000+01:00Steve, surely it's different because her modificat...Steve, surely it's different because her modification is reinforcing rather than challenging social norms, whereas covering your body in tattoos or having multiple piercings is an expression of alternative culture (albeit in an arguably cliched way, and in a way ripe to sexist eploitation too, as suicide girls et al shows).<br /><br />I don't think she deserves abuse, but I also doubt she's doing it purely as a feminist declaration that her body is her own and she can do what she wants with it.tim fhttp://provisional.bbc.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-36580180871543779152009-04-19T13:26:00.000+01:002009-04-19T13:26:00.000+01:00Genuine question - amongst some of the trolling - ...Genuine question - amongst some of the trolling - how different is what Sarah Burge does to any other sort of 'body modification'?<br />How is it different from covering your body in tattoos or having multiple piercings?<br />After all, it's your body, so why is what she does to hers any different to any other things people want to do to their bodies?<br />Personally, her looks do nothing for me and I find her a bit scary but not as much as someone with tattoos all over and a face full of metal.<br />When those things are on a person that I find unattractive, they serve to draw my attention to their unattractiveness.<br />Indeed, although I don't find Burge attractive, I find her more attractive than someone overweight and heavily tattood or ugly and with a face full of piercings.<br />Genuine question!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-15124548799785483712009-04-19T12:43:00.000+01:002009-04-19T12:43:00.000+01:00Dear "real men" on this thread:
You're just comin...Dear "real men" on this thread:<br /><br />You're just coming over as a bunch of dumbfuck mouldering cock-ends, you know. <br /><br />You're not "s0cking it to teh feminnists LOL!!!11!!" at all.<br /><br />You merely sound like you're trying to build up enough of a head of steam to have a wank.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-67619976228793672452009-04-19T11:22:00.000+01:002009-04-19T11:22:00.000+01:00Armed with a tube of KY jelly I'd definitely do Sa...Armed with a tube of KY jelly I'd definitely do Sarah Burge if she gave me the green light! She's smokin' hot for a mature chick! And at least I can get it up unlike most of these these gender-traitorous castrado-like she-male feminists who back up Penny Red! Thank God for real men and real women!Anony Moosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-18379913196637487072009-04-19T10:10:00.000+01:002009-04-19T10:10:00.000+01:00You haven't got a very attractive voice, Laurie. ...You haven't got a very attractive voice, Laurie. You also sound like an immature person who's had no real experience outside middleclassdom. Plus you stole most of your talking points from Tanya Gold's article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-26429500395345339242009-04-19T09:19:00.000+01:002009-04-19T09:19:00.000+01:00You people are beyond parody.
Are all feminists r...You people are beyond parody.<br /><br />Are all feminists recruited from the ranks of plain bespeckled students, unpopular at school and sometimes teased or bullied by their blond, leggy, bosomy, sexy, curvaceous and more beautiful contemporaries? Does all this anger and bitterness originate from diverse inferiority complexes, suppressed anger and a desire to even the score with the rest of the world in adulthood? Not depilitating your arms, legs and armpits doesn't make you better than Sarah Budge, ladies, it only makes you hairy. With the world convulsed by disease, poverty, war and starvation this kind of punctilious small mindedness makes feminists look even more ridiculous than normal.<br /><br />Only spoilt, idle or privileged individuals, isolated and buffered from the realities of daily existence, could waste such a lot of time nurturing such pointless introverted snobbery. With the world going to hell in a handbasket and dozens of living species becoming extinct on a daily basis surely Penny Red and small band of vocal cheerleaders could occupy themselves with something more significant and meaningful. <br /><br />Save the rainforest! Save the ocean! Save the whale! Save the polar bear! Save the environment! Save the human race from its misdeeds! <br /><br />And the feminist bullshit, bitching, backbiting and bullying? <br /><br />SAVE IT!The XYY Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-36139740412262258832009-04-19T09:11:00.000+01:002009-04-19T09:11:00.000+01:00Whilst Susan Boyle is predictably getting all the ...Whilst Susan Boyle is predictably getting all the media attention, I think it's <A HREF="http://entertainment.stv.tv/home/89106-britains-got-talent-stripper-quits-after-getting-hate-mail" REL="nofollow">Fabia Cerra</A> that is getting the far worse treatment - not only from complaints made to Ofcom but also reports of her getting hate mail, and even a tasteless Facebook group set up against her.<br /><br />Of course, we all know the reason why? Typical sizeist attitudes and once again, mysogyny that exists in society - after all, if Cerra was a size 10 and looked like a page 3 model, she'd be receiving a completely different reaction from the media and public.Stephhttp://mindthegap.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4343658614010405479.post-15478880319850302022009-04-19T02:59:00.000+01:002009-04-19T02:59:00.000+01:00Brilliant point at the end, Penny, about the song ...Brilliant point at the end, Penny, about the song choice. Summed up the feminist angle perfectly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com